State and Power Company Dialogue: Opportunities for Multi-State Collaboration Under EPA's Forthcoming Carbon Pollution Reduction Standards

April 22, 2014

The Georgetown Climate Center recently hosted a dialogue among senior state, power company, and federal leaders focused on the potential for multi-state collaboration in meeting forthcoming EPA standards that will reduce carbon pollution from existing power plants.

Participants in the dialogue identified opportunities for coordination and collaboration including:

  • Using common analysis among states to inform program development
  • Developing common approaches to measurement or crediting
  • Developing programs that allow averaging or trading across sources and different state programs
  • Developing multi-state compliance programs with shared targets and compliance mechanisms

Participants also identified the potential benefits of multi-state coordination and collaboration, including potential cost savings and reliability benefits, and potential challenges, such as increased complexity of some multi-state approaches. 

The April 22 meeting was the third discussion among state, power company, and federal leaders hosted by the Center since President Obama unveiled his Climate Action Plan last June at Georgetown University. The standards, which are expected to be released by the EPA in June 2014, are a key component of the President's plan.

Key experts were also invited to join the meeting to help inform the conversation, including representatives of electric grid operators, NGOs that have conducted relevant analyses, and representatives of other organizations facilitating state discussions.

The Center has previously hosted two other dialogues in the series. During the first discussion, on June 27, 2013, state officials and power companies shared success stories and began a conversation with federal officials about how to build on those successes to comply with the forthcoming standards. The second meeting, on October 28, 2013, featured a more in-depth discussion about the possible options for compliance.

Below is a participants list and agenda from the April 22 meeting.




8:30 am: Welcome and Overview
Welcome and overview of the day by Vicki Arroyo, Executive Director, Georgetown Climate Center; Assistant Dean for Centers & Institutes and Director of Environmental Law Program, Georgetown Law.

9:00 am: Multi-State Collaboration & Coordination – Opportunities and Challenges
Why are states, power companies, and other stakeholders interested in exploring multi-state options? Opening discussion about potential benefits, challenges, and unanswered questions.

10:30 am: How Could Proposed Sec. 111(d) Approaches be Implemented in a Multi-State Context?
How could proposed rate-based, mass-based, carbon price, or hybrid approaches to compliance with Sec. 111(d) be implemented within a multi-state framework? Discussion with participants whose organizations have put forward proposals or models.

Noon: Lunch & Presentations on Relevant Work from Resource Participants

12:45 pm: Key Implementation Considerations for Multi-State Processes
If interested in exploring multi-state collaboration or coordination, what are the steps a state might take? What procedural, institutional, and substantive issues would need to be addressed?

2:30 pm: Featured Discussion with EPA Deputy Administrator Bob Perciasepe

3:15 pm: What is Needed to Facilitate Multi-State Collaboration & Coordination?
What actions could the federal government and others take to facilitate state efforts to explore multi-state collaboration or coordination?

4:00 pm: Summary and Next Steps
Summarize the themes heard throughout the day, and identify issues around which there may be broad agreement.

4:30 pm: Meeting Adjourns & Participants Invited for Refreshments




  • Arkansas: Teresa Marks, Director, Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality
  • California: Craig Segall, Senior Staff Attorney, California Air Resources Board
  • Colorado: Martha Rudolph, Director of Environmental Programs, Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment
  • Delaware: Collin O’Mara, Secretary, Delaware Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control
  • Illinois: Doug Scott, Chair, Illinois Commerce Commission
  • Kentucky: Talina Mathews, Director of Energy Generation, Transmission, and Distribution, Department for Energy Development and Independence, Kentucky Energy and Environment Cabinet
  • Maryland: Kathy Kinsey, Deputy Secretary for Regulatory Programs and Operations, Maryland Department of the Environment
  • Massachusetts: David Cash, Commissioner, Massachusetts Department of Environmental Protection
  • Michigan: Vince Hellwig, Air Quality Division Chief, Michigan Department of Environmental Quality
  • Minnesota: David Thornton, Assistant Commissioner, Minnesota Pollution Control Agency
  • Missouri: Goldie Tompkins, Chief of Staff and Policy Advisor to Chair Robert Kenney, Missouri Public Service Commission
  • Montana: Tracy Stone-Manning, Director, Montana Department of Environmental Quality
  • New Mexico: Ryan Flynn, Secretary, New Mexico Environment Department
  • New York: Jared Snyder, Assistant Commissioner for Air Resources, Climate Change and Energy, New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
  • Oregon: Uri Papish, Interim Air Quality Administrator, Oregon Department of Environmental Quality
  • Tennessee: Katie Southworth, Senior Program Manager, Office of Energy Programs and Office of Policy and Planning, Tennessee Department of Environment and Conservation
  • Virginia: David Paylor, Director, Virginia Department of Environmental Quality
  • Washington: Sam Ricketts, Director, Washington, DC Office of Washington State Governor Jay Inslee


Power Companies

  • Arizona Public Service Company, Charles Spell, Director of Corporate Environmental and Sustainability
  • DTE Energy: Skiles Boyd, Vice President, Environmental Management and Resources  
  • Exelon: Amy Trojecki, Director of Environmental and Fuels Policy
  • Great River Energy: Jon Brekke, Vice President of Membership and Energy Markets
  • National Grid: Cathy Waxman, Environmental Manager, Power Plant Operations
  • NextEra Energy: Ray Butts, Director, Environmental Services
  • PG&E: Melissa Lavinson, Vice President, Federal Affairs
  • PNM Resources: Maureen Gannon, Executive Director, Environmental Services
  • Portland General Electric: Sania “Sunny” Radcliffe, Director of Government Affairs
  • PSEG: Kristen Ludecke, Vice President, Federal Affairs
  • Seattle City Light: Lynn Best, Director, Environmental Affairs and Real Estate
  • TVA: John Myers, Director, Environmental Policy and Performance
  • Xcel Energy: Jack Ihle, Director of Environmental Policy ISOs
  • PJM: Paul Sotkiewicz, Chief Economist, Market Services Division
  • MISO: Kari Evans Bennett, Senior Corporate Counsel


Resource Participants

  • Clean Air Task Force: Conrad Schneider, Advocacy Director
  • Center for the New Energy Economy: Jeff Lyng, Senior Policy Advisor
  • Environmental Council of the States: Alexandra Dapolito Dunn, Executive Director and General Counsel
  • Energy Foundation: Marcus Schneider, Project Director, Climate
  • Environmental Defense Fund: Megan Ceronsky, Attorney, Domestic Climate and Air
  • Great Plains Institute / Litz Energy Strategies: Franz Litz, Program Consultant / Principal
  • M.J. Bradley & Associates LLC: Carrie Jenks, Senior Vice President
  • National Association of Clean Air Agencies: Bill Becker, Executive Director, and Phil Assmus, Senior Staff Associate
  • Natural Resources Defense Council: Derek Murrow, Director, Federal Energy Policy
  • Nicholas Institute for Environmental Policy Solutions: Jonas Monast, Director, Climate & Energy Program
  • Resources for the Future: Dallas Burtraw, Senior Fellow & Darius Gaskins Chair


Federal Representatives Environmental Protection Agency

  • Bob Perciasepe, Deputy Administrator
  • Janet McCabe, Acting Assistant Administrator for the Office of Air and Radiation
  • Joseph Goffman, Associate Administrator for Climate and Senior Counsel to the Assistant Administrator for Air and Radiation
  • Mark Rupp, Deputy Associate Administrator for Intergovernmental Relations
  • Sarah Dunham, Director, Office of Atmospheric Programs
  • Julie Rosenberg, Branch Chief, State and Local Climate and Energy Program, Office of Atmospheric Programs
  • Julia Miller, Policy Analyst, State and Local Climate and Energy Program, Office of Atmospheric Programs
  • Christopher Sherry, Policy Analyst, Climate Policy Branch, Office of Atmospheric Programs
  • Amy Vasu, Environmental Scientist, Office of Air Quality Planning and Standards, Sector Policies and Programs Division
  • Lora Strine, Senior Advisor, Office of Air Quality Planning and Standards
  • Ellen Kurlansky, Policy Analyst, Office of Policy Analysis and Review
  • Barry Elman, Senior Policy Analyst, Office of Policy
  • Denise Mulholland, Senior Program Manager, State and Local Climate and Energy Program, Office of Atmospheric Programs
  • Nikolaas Dietsch, Policy Analyst, State and Local Climate and Energy Program, Office of Atmospheric Programs


Department of Energy

  • Judi Greenwald, Deputy Director for Climate, Environment, and Energy Efficiency, Office of Energy Policy and Systems Analysis
  • Erin Boyd, AAAS Science & Technology Policy Fellow, Office of Climate and Environmental Analysis Federal Energy Regulatory Commission
  • Michael Bardee, Director, Office of Electric Reliability


Georgetown Climate Center

  • Vicki Arroyo, Executive Director; Assistant Dean for Centers and Institutes and Director of Environmental Law Program, Georgetown Law
  • Kate Zyla, Deputy Director
  • Gabe Pacyniak, Institute Associate
  • Lissa Lynch, Institute Associate